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The Pickup Artist Episode 2 Thoughts

Author: Entropy -- Boston Pickup Artist

- For how dramatic the rest of the show has become, the in-field footage is pretty damn accurate. That’s how harsh regular blowouts can be, especially when guys act the way these guys are acting.

- The overreactions from Matador and Mystery are too much. They act like they’re watching a football game in overtime every time a guy runs an opinion opener. I know Mystery has seen 1,000 blowouts worse than any of those. It’s just the irony that reality TV really is more fake than actual TV sometimes.

- The massive amount of blowouts just reinforces my idea that Mystery’s material is simply outdated. He’s basically teaching the same thing he taught in 2003. Guys should not be getting blown out repeatedly after a basic seminar. I’ve worked with too many newbies to know this. I think the problem stems from the fact that this old school material is so centered on WHAT you say, not HOW you say it. Seriously, if you fixed these guys’ state issues, gave them a few basic inner game concepts, explained basic calibration and body language, told them to relax and be friendly, they’d at least hook half of those sets. But instead, they jump in with their fucking dancing monkey syndrome, running routines completely oblivious to any social feedback and calibration. It’s the classic error of putting attraction game before basic social acuity… a mistake I focus on in my eBook.

- I liked the bingo parlor bit. That’s actually really useful in a lot of ways. Makes good TV as well.

- Was surprised to see Kevin go. The guy was overcompensating — trying to be “too cool” — so he just came off as a complete asshole. That’s easily remedied in guys. Whereas Karl’s meltdown is an inner game issue that may stick around for the rest of the show.

Under 21 Convention Video of Entropy and I

Author: Day Game with Doc Holliday

It starts with me then switches over to Entropy

Ten Tips for Killer Eye Contact

Author: Approach Anxiety

Eye Contact.  It is a topic for which there is a staggering amount of confusing advice.  And for good reason.
Someone can teach you how to physically walk up to a woman, what to verbally say in a conversation and even, to a certain extent, how to touch her.
But it is very difficult to teach guys [...]

Under 21 Convention Footage

Author: Entropy -- Boston Pickup Artist

Dream released footage of Doc and I at the Under 21 Convention from July. This clip shows Doc talking about day game and me talking about college game (I was giving a seminar there on it that weekend). Unfortunately, the video gets cut off right when I start to get into the material. I’m also in my super muscle shirt (damn, I need to hit the gym again).

Here’s the trailer for the entire convention, of which I appear briefly right at the end.

Audio FR: Direct Day Game

Author: Entropy -- Boston Pickup Artist

My partner in crime, Doc, and I have been recording a bunch of sets the past few days. One of the really good sets I had to turn the camera off halfway through. So he took the audio of it, edited it and we threw it online.

It’s him going direct on a girl in a clothing store and getting her number. Enjoy.

http://www.practicalpickup.com/DocHolliday-DirectDayGame.mp3

Obama Vs McCain

Author: Seduction Chronicles Dating Tips

Vin Di Carlo had a good email about the Presidential Debates, when no matter your politicial views, I think we can learn some decent lessons from what he explains:
I know what you’re thinking… but don’t worry…
I’m not going to have a political discussion here. My political views aren’t important anyway…
But I have to say, I’ve [...]

Sunday Challenge by David Wygant

Author: Seduction Chronicles Dating Tips

Your goal on a Sunday (you can do it on a Saturday too) is to take yourself out on a date all day long.
I used to do this when I lived in Manhattan. I would wake up at 10:30, take a shower, and then decide which direction I was going to go that day. I’d [...]

Audio FR – Direct Day Game

Author: Day Game with Doc Holliday

Had to delete… Sorry guys

FREE DJ Fuji Lair Talk in Boston 10/22/08

Author: Day Game with Doc Holliday

Hey Everyone!

Mehow Inc’s lead instructor Dj Fuji is going to be speaking Boston on Wednesday 10/22/08 for FREE

Gonna be full of great content and not just some marketing thing for Mehow’s shit. Fuji is also going to give away some products

Date: Wednesday 10/22/08
Time: 7:00pm
Where: Elephant and Castle 161 Devonshire St. Boston, MA 02110

And I have an Audio FR for you guys that I’m going to be posting in a few hours!

Conversation Demolition IV

Author: Entropy -- Boston Pickup Artist

Back with another conversation demolition. This one is of an IM conversation.

As always, previous demolitions can be viewed here, here and here. As always, if you have a conversation you would like me to demolish — be it by text, online, phone or in person — email it to me here.

To preface: This is a girl who I have never touched at all, she knows me because her brother used to live at my apartment. We have been bantering over IM for two weeks now. I have DHVed enough to know the “no interest” thing isn’t true. Just wanted to know if I could have done anything different.

Me: hey, can we dump that dresser?
Girl: no
me: OK, we’re going to start charging you storage then. Where should I send the bill?
Girl: oh really? well john told me it was fine.
someone made that for my parents for their wedding. I will email him now and ask.

Remember, sarcasm is often lost over the internet. If you’re being sarcastic or trying to tease her, I always recommend making liberal use of smileys… particularly winky smileys. ;)

Needless to say, she doesn’t get the joke but is actually taking it quite seriously.

me: ha!
you get really defensive about this
I don’t care about the dresser
I just wanted a reason to start a conversation with you

OK, so you call her “defensive” probably pissing her off, and then make a statement of interest. This is all over the place and horrible timing. You’ve threatened her dresser (sounds funny, but it turns out she really values it) and then insulted her. You’ve put her in the WORST possible emotional space to tell her you’re interested in her. There’s no way you get a positive reaction here.

Girl: I am not defensive, just upfront
why?

Oh, the irony. She defends herself by claiming she’s not defensive. As for your statement of interest, she appears confused by it (as she should be), so she asks you why you like her.

me: because you looked cute last night going to the ballet, and I want to see if I would like to get to know you better
Girl: if youuu would like to? hmm..

Not the strongest answer just calling her cute. And dude… the, “I want to see if I would like to get to know you better” is HORRIBLE. Get rid of it. How self-centered can you be? Basically, you’re insulting her then say, “but you’re hot, I want to see if maybe I could actually like you at some point.” Are women supposed to jump on this? “OH PLEASE LIKE ME SIR!” This is condescending and egotistical.

Notice she totally picks this up.

well I am sorry if me being nice was mistaken for something else
I am just a nice person
there was never any interest there
plus I am seeing someone..

She flat out rejects you. I don’t know why you say you “know” she’s lying here. Why would ANY girl lie about not being interested in you? Especially a girl this blunt and direct.

me: well, at least you’ll have something to do when we’re not hanging out and no one said anything about me wanting to date you

Classic line, which is good and I’ve used many times. But this girl already thinks you’re rude and self-absorbed, so why would you just reinforce that belief?

You say you don’t want to date her. Now who’s being defensive? Keep negging her man… just make the hole deeper.

Girl: ok whatever…anyone that reads what you have said to me would think otherwise…

I have to agree with her. Community theory really doesn’t give girls much credit. They are SO much more perceptive. They usually know what we’re doing more than we do. You blatantly TOLD the girl you thought she was cute and wanted to get to know her better, then become defensive and neg her repeatedly. She sees through you dude!

maybe that’s just your personality

Ironically, it’s probably not.

either way, no interest

Ouch.

running to meet john for coffee

—-Time Passes—-

Girl: hey – last thing …I just want to apologize not for what I said, but for how it might have sounded. I am just very honest, and sometimes that can come across as b*tchy, especially over gchat/email.

She feels bad for being so harsh and blunt with rejecting you, so she apologizes. But she is careful to make the point that she’s not sorry for rejecting you, but for how harsh she was.

me: I thought it was hilarious

Yeah man, because getting bluntly rejected by a girl after two weeks is soooooo funny.

Rich guys don’t have to tell girls they’re rich. Guys with big cocks don’t have to tell girls they have big cocks. Guys who don’t care about getting rejected don’t have to tell girls they think it’s “hilarious.” You’re REALLY transparent bro.

Girl: oh?
me: I don’t know how to respond to “oh?”

Now you’re just getting sassy.

girl: oh
ha jk
it’s the equivalent of “you don’t say” or “really?”

me: ORLY?
girl: sure

She must really feel bad to put up with this.

me: then my response would have been
yes

Girl: good talk

—-I stop responding, 3 minutes pass—-

Girl: I guess we have different definitions of what’s hilarious…but
whatever floats your boat.

The three minutes is irrelevant. Three minutes of silence over IM is nothing. That’s a bathroom trip, or the time it takes to get a snack.

Once again she’s confused by your bipolar responses. This girl may have been into you before, she may not have been. Judging by your miscalibration here, I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually wasn’t into you and you thought she was. You come across as an ass without intending to and you’re giving her big mixed signals. Her responses read more like the man’s in this exchange: she was more rational, congruent and direct every step of the way. That’s not necessarily a knock to you, but something to keep in mind.

She states explicitly THREE TIMES that she’s not interested. That’s AFTER you displayed direct interest in her. Dude, no offense, but you have to be delusional to think this girl is seriously interested in you. Just because she banters on IM a few times means nothing. She seems like a cool chick. You probably still have a shot with her, but you’re definitely headed in the wrong direction.


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